Why Programmers don’t have a High Social Status?

By | December 30, 2011

Up to date there is No single street name for a top programmer or computer scientist in any of the Top 20 most developed countries in the world during the last 60 years.

There is no statue built in the center of a major city for a renown programmer or computer scientists.

No “Presidential Medal” or “Congressional Gold Medal” has been awarded to a computer scientists or programmer.

There is no nationally televised social reward ceremony for computer programmers and scientists like there is for artists, football or basketball players, etc.

There is no red carpet and Nobel price award ceremony-like for their achievements, and contribution to the progress of humanity.

Even when their work makes the whole world singing praises, they only fill the back seats glancing at other junkies making the speeches and grabbing the awards.

The only exception I found is about the English computer scientist Alan Turing who is considered to father of computer science.

Turing has been honored in various ways: a bridge and a street were named “Alan Turing Way”. A statue of Turing was unveiled in Manchester on 23 June 2001. And, since 1966, the Turing Award has been given annually by the Association for Computing Machinery to a person for technical contributions to the computing community.

The Turing Award is widely considered to be the computing world’s highest honour, equivalent to the Nobel Prize.

The most  known accomplishment of Turin outside of computer scientists circles is his contribution to Breaking the Code of German naval Enigma system during the second world war.

He is regarded as one of the main contributors (behind the scene) to the Allies victory in 1945 against the Nazis.

Another exception, once again from the United Kingdom, is about Tim Berners-Lee, considered as the Inventor of the World Wide Web, who received numerous recognition around the world, and was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II, in 2004.

Despite what precedes, overall most programmers and computer scientists are less paid than sales people, MBA types, Designers, Doctors, etc. and it’s not easy for them to get laid on the first date. They are not artists, musicians, designers, architects, football players … Definitely they are not at the top of the sexual food chain.

Time magazine has been doing a great job naming up to 4 computers geeks “Person of the year” during the last 85 years: the The Computer in 1982,  Andrew Grove in 1997, Jeffrey P. Bezos in 1999, Mark Zuckerberg in 2010.

However, it remains a long way to go before the celebration of computers geeks enters into the realm of everyday life, schools, streets, marketplaces, medias, etc.

So, it comes to me to wonder why programmers and computer scientists are not so highly regarded and rewarded accordingly? When I look around me, I wonder how the world will be without these nerds? From the iPhone, to your latest Gadget , none of these things will ever be possible without an army of these hard working folks.

Here is another annoying fact.
On October 8, 2011, Dennis Ritchie, the Inventor of C and Developer of UNIX died, almost at the same date as Steve Jobs (October 5, 2011). Ritchie’s death went completely unnoticed, and was only reported by few news portals, geeks’ blogs and forums. The President of the United States, the top national politicians, the top business executives, all news medias lavishly reported about Steve Jobs’s death, and spent countless hours of talk shows and magazine articles on his life, achievements, and legacy. But nothing similar for Dennis Ritchie.

My question here is “Are Dennis Ritchie achievements less than Steve Jobs’s achievements? Did Steve jobs achievements brought more change in more people life than Dennis Ritchie achievements?” If the answer is No, Damn how do you explain the situation!?

Now, from all the previous observations and questions, I went on to investigate, and some of my discoveries shocked me a lot, but also amused me immensely.

First discovery: Programmers have the fate they deserve. Their self esteem and self value is too low.

This manifests itself by a very singular phenomena: programmers hate each other. They usually bash other programmers when talking to non-programmers. Give the work a programmer to another programmer, and most of the time the comment will be negative about the work and the programmer.

Artists don’t do that.
Sales people don’t do that.
MBA types don’t do that.
Politicians do that only for joking to have votes.
Most of other prestigious professions support each other publicly, even when they are in competition (Look at lawyers for examples – Please, don’t ask me why these bastards rule America).
In few words, all above professions have a bigger sense of community, and are proud to be who they are and proud of what they are doing.

The crab mentality should Stop!

Rumor has it, if you put several crabs into a bucket, and if one of them begins to crawl out, one or more of the other crabs will put it back down and prevent it’s escape. It's called Crab Mentality. This is a good metaphor for life

Second discovery: Most people hate programmers.
Sales people hate programmers.
MBA Types hates programmers.
Designers hate programmers.
Programmers hate programmers.
Joe the plumber hates programmers.
Girls hate programmers.

Why? I don’t know. I found a lot of speculations here, here, and here 

We need to have less haters :)

Third discovery: Programmers are not looking for these vanity titles, sexy ceremonies and awards, they hate the spotlight.

A Programmer wants to program. He want to be left alone to program. Programming is his mission, and the politics, the glories, public speeches are not interesting to him. He hates people who are not as smart as him, and hates more all the people who don’t understand the holy mission of programming with C++.
He then slowly convinces himself that he is born introvert, so he is afraid to go out, talk on the phone, go to the bar, meet politicians and strangers, all things that are in fact necessary to build up his social network and status.

Let have a dream from today. 

1. Nerds deserve the Presidential Medals, the Congressional Medals or any kind of high level rewards that distinguish high achievement and contribution to society.

2. I’m a programmer, other programmers are friends, not enemies, therefore I swear I won’t talk them down in front of non-programmers. Repeat after me!

3. Programmers are brave and smart, but also funny people. “Introversion is not in the DNA, so I’m not born introvert, I can choose my attitudes and social masks at anytime” Repeat after me!

4. Complete the list … if necessary

Now is the best time ever in history for geeks. I love programing and I love programmers. It’s full employment period for geeks while the other guys have to beg for job :) ) hahaha … the Revenge of the Nerds :) )

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25 Comments

Contrary on December 31, 2011 at 9:16 am.

Being an introvert is in the DNA.

However I do like the general thesis that programmers shouldn’t talk down about other programmers, and that programmers should demand more respect. Lets face it — We’re often the smartest people in the room.

nonce on December 31, 2011 at 10:36 am.

“Turing most known accomplishment outside of computer scientists circles is ” being faggot prosecuted by uk government.
That’s the single, “most important”(for outsiders) reason, he’s famous outside cs circles.

Mawuna R. KOUTONIN on December 31, 2011 at 4:43 pm.

So you think “introversion is coded in the DNA” of people? isn’t that something from upbringing and environment?

Mawuna R. KOUTONIN on December 31, 2011 at 4:48 pm.

You are sadly right. The great man who contributed so much to his country got prosecuted stupidly.
I read on wikipedia that the UK government recently apologized for the event:

Government apology

In August 2009, John Graham-Cumming started a petition urging the British Government to posthumously apologise to Alan Turing for prosecuting him as a homosexual.[80][81] The petition received thousands of signatures.[82][83] Prime Minister Gordon Brown acknowledged the petition, releasing a statement on 10 September 2009 apologising and describing Turing’s treatment as “appalling”:[7][82]

Thousands of people have come together to demand justice for Alan Turing and recognition of the appalling way he was treated. While Turing was dealt with under the law of the time and we can’t put the clock back, his treatment was of course utterly unfair and I am pleased to have the chance to say how deeply sorry I and we all are for what happened to him … So on behalf of the British government, and all those who live freely thanks to Alan’s work I am very proud to say: we’re sorry, you deserved so much better.[82]

In December 2011, William Jones created an e-petition[84] requesting the British Government pardon Alan Turing for his conviction of ‘gross-indecency’[85]

We ask the HM Government to grant a pardon to Alan Turing for the conviction of ‘gross indecency’. In 1952, he was convicted of ‘gross indecency’ with another man and was forced to undergo so-called ‘organo-therapy’ – chemical castration. Two years later, he killed himself with cyanide, aged just 41. Alan Turing was driven to a terrible despair and early death by the nation he’d done so much to save. This remains a shame on the UK government and UK history. A pardon can go to some way to healing this damage. It may act as an apology to many of the other gay men, not as well known as Alan Turing, who were subjected to these laws.

Jonathan Simms on January 1, 2012 at 8:33 am.

Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson won the National Medal of Technology and were awarded the honor in a ceremony in 1999 seen here with a rather famous president, Bill Clinton.

Bell Labs announcement here.

Kal on January 1, 2012 at 11:32 am.

Well, that a fact, however there are few people that have contribute and have streets on their names. For example John Atanasov, the father of computers.

Not Relevant on January 1, 2012 at 11:37 am.

“accomplishment of Turin outside”

Mawuna R. KOUTONIN on January 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm.

Thanks. Correction done :) I wish you a HAPPY NEW YEAR !

lepine kong on January 1, 2012 at 4:33 pm.

The reason is there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHvnIm9UEoQ

Loss of Quality Supremacy because Financiers make money by arbitraging between high sale price and low cost price.

That’s why Mac Arthur authorized Deming to train the Japenese to become an industrial giant whereas US Business Schools were totally ignoring the secret origin of Japenese success.

Daniel Beck on January 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm.

“Up to date there is No single street name for a top programmer or computer scientist in any of the Top 20 most developed countries in the world”

That statement ist clearly wrong.

In my town, there is Konrad-Zuse-street:
http://g.co/maps/wgdfc

The following statement is not true either: “There is no statue built in the center of a major city for a renown programmer or computer scientists.”

There are several statues of Konrad Zuse in germany. For example
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:KZuse_denkmal.jpg&filetimestamp=20060625113536

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Konrad_Zuse_Denkmal_im_Huenfelder_Stadtpark.JPG&filetimestamp=20081023091115

You also said “Programmers have the fate they deserve. Their self esteem and self value is too low.”
It seems to me that your are basing your argumentation on the stereotype of the programmer. Not just here, but throw the hole blog. Most programmers *I* know are married and have children. They have normal hobbies like making sport and going out. They spend time with their families or their wife/husband.

You second point was “Most people hate programmers.”
Do someone really hates you because of your work? What are you producing – weapons? Most companies are happy if they find programmers.

Mawuna R. KOUTONIN on January 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm.

Thanks Daniel for pointing to these pieces of information. VEry useful and informative. Thanks for your contribution.
IN the end this collective effort of uncovering the facts about programmers and computer scientists social status and recognition might leads to some kind of “CS WHO’S WHO”
For now the CS WHO’S WHO has only 3 pages :) )

itoctopus on January 2, 2012 at 1:32 pm.

Probably the reason for that is that when you talk to most of them these days (and they are a dime a dozen), you feel you’re not talking to reasonable people. And those of them that are really worth talking to don’t have the time to talk to you.

One of the best programmers in the world (Dennis Ritchie) passed away back in October, I would like to see a street named after him.

Robert Accettura on January 2, 2012 at 4:23 pm.

You forget all great civilizations are built on anonymous slave labor.

Why would “cyberspace” be any different? Technically of all the civilizations built, those building cyberspace have done 1000X better than all the rest.

It’s human nature to leverage a population to advance itself.

Mawuna R. KOUTONIN on January 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm.

You are absolutely right. The new slaves should unite and strike back :) Anonymous :)
Enjoy a Wonderful new year :)

Developer Dude on January 4, 2012 at 12:50 am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper

PastDust on January 6, 2012 at 3:11 am.


讲得很有道理
常年累月的面对电脑
对程序员本身性格影响太大
无奈啊